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romney, he doesn't have to hit a home run, but romney has to be at the end of the debate wednesday night, a clear alternative who is considered as a potelepresident by a majority-- potential president by the maiority of american people in order for his campaign to have a chance to win. >> schieffer: is that another way to say if he doesn't win these debates if he doesn't win these debates? >> no challenger can become president if they don't stabbed up against the incumbent president. this was true with carter and ford, and ford made a mistake and cost him deerly. it was true with carter against reagan, reagan stood up to it. and it was true for george h.w. bush. he had a moment to knock out bill clinton and he didn't. >> schieffer: this debate will be about domestic affairs. i want to ask you something about the foreign policy front. the administration has basic plea changed its account of what happened in libya, where our u.s. ambassador was killed. they said, susan rice said on this broadcast last sunday, after the president of libya said this was the work of terrorists, she said, no,
romney, he doesn't have to hit a home run, but romney has to be at the end of the debate wednesday night, a clear alternative who is considered as a potelepresident by a majority-- potential president by the maiority of american people in order for his campaign to have a chance to win. >> schieffer: is that another way to say if he doesn't win these debates if he doesn't win these debates? >> no challenger can become president if they don't stabbed up against the incumbent...
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i think that we forget that romney is a great debater. we saw in the primaries that he was really everyone's favorite in the debates. so i think we can expect that he will do a good job. frankly, i would argue that he's more comfortable on the debate stage than he is ordering a milk shake at mcdonald's. so i do think he's in his element on the debate stage. he will have memorized lines. the only way he's really going to, like i said, hit it out of the ballpark is to show us a side of him that he's never seen before and really surprise us. >> abby, let me ask you one question. the last time we had an i incumbent candidate that was challenged, ignoring bob dole's attempt to bring it on kind of. listen to this in their debate. >> mr. president, what do you say to senator dole's point that this election is about keeping one's word? >> when i ran for president, i said we could cut the deficit in half and we cut it by 60%. i said our economic plan would produce 8 minullion jobs and we created 10 million jobs. >> i can only tell thaw i don't thi
i think that we forget that romney is a great debater. we saw in the primaries that he was really everyone's favorite in the debates. so i think we can expect that he will do a good job. frankly, i would argue that he's more comfortable on the debate stage than he is ordering a milk shake at mcdonald's. so i do think he's in his element on the debate stage. he will have memorized lines. the only way he's really going to, like i said, hit it out of the ballpark is to show us a side of him that...
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here is the truth about obama and romney, neither a stellar debater. obama didn't shine in the democratic primary debates, biden won them. that's why obama picked biden. candidate obama had a tendency to ramble in the debates, got better during mccain one on ones. while romney did well in this season's gop debates, had rough performances, bet you $10,000 he did. romney performances, the unspoken body language that the camera captured, they were brutal against ted kennedy. ivy league will enjoy biden versus ryan more. trust me. >>> turning back to the brand new battleground polls. there's a different pattern emerging, president obama is ahead in new hampshire, tighter in nevada and north carolina. joining me, director of the marist poll. good to see you in person. >> welcome to the home of the new york yankees. >> you're going to blow the playoff run. >> i am worried. >> we want the beltway series in washington. we have been looking at this as sort of the generic, the general all nine states. what is your take away? >> i think what you're seeing is a ve
here is the truth about obama and romney, neither a stellar debater. obama didn't shine in the democratic primary debates, biden won them. that's why obama picked biden. candidate obama had a tendency to ramble in the debates, got better during mccain one on ones. while romney did well in this season's gop debates, had rough performances, bet you $10,000 he did. romney performances, the unspoken body language that the camera captured, they were brutal against ted kennedy. ivy league will enjoy...
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he needs this first debate to be a wash. it really is unrealistic to think the president is going to wipe the floor with romney. anybody who thinks that has just not got enough sleep. romney's strategy is going to be to put the president back on his heels, to cause him to hmm and haw, to make him look professorial or weak or defensive. he's going to have romney, specific attacks to do just that. so the president needs to prepare, prepare prepare for what will be romney's perfectly-rehearsed, incoming scuds. so bottom line, mr. president, i know you don't want to do it. i know it is like swallowing terrible medicine, believe me, i know it is a painful unpleasant experience but mr. president for the good of the nation, get to the debate camp immediately. no more cancellations! with all due respect sir. all right. we're just getting started here on a wednesday night. coming up, colorado senator mark udall on republican efforts to take the wind out of clean energy. also, a rarity for us here in "the war room." somebody who actua
he needs this first debate to be a wash. it really is unrealistic to think the president is going to wipe the floor with romney. anybody who thinks that has just not got enough sleep. romney's strategy is going to be to put the president back on his heels, to cause him to hmm and haw, to make him look professorial or weak or defensive. he's going to have romney, specific attacks to do just that. so the president needs to prepare, prepare prepare for what will be romney's perfectly-rehearsed,...
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>> romney has to get this debate focused on policies. and his alternatives and why they would do better. virtually no talk about that in this campaign. if this campaign turned to that, that's hugely to romney's advantage and that's what he needs to focus on. >> does he have to give out more details? >> interesting to me to hear you guys talk about details. i didn't any of that in 2008. kay ser announced last week, since obama care was adopted. family insurance premiums have gone up $3,000. senator obama, how are you going to do that? it's not normal. >> i think all of us are talking about romney needs to shake up this race and change the dynamic. the poll numbers show that's the case. it's likely to change anyway even with a modest debate performance. i don't think we can take away the pressure that's on the president in this debate. because i remember full well in 2004, george w. bush was 6, 7 points ahead of john kerry. he didn't prepare well. that race went from a six-point race to a one-point race in 48 hours. i think barack obama ha
>> romney has to get this debate focused on policies. and his alternatives and why they would do better. virtually no talk about that in this campaign. if this campaign turned to that, that's hugely to romney's advantage and that's what he needs to focus on. >> does he have to give out more details? >> interesting to me to hear you guys talk about details. i didn't any of that in 2008. kay ser announced last week, since obama care was adopted. family insurance premiums have...
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mitt romney devoted three full days in vermont to debate preparations. the president is lucky to be able to devote three consecutive hours to debate preparation. >> it is something that you have to do to lower the expectations, because expectations are running quite high on both sides about the debate itself, what we can expect to see. >> well, i think everybody's expectations are running high. generally challengers win the first debate, especially against incumbents, because incumbents have not had the opportunity to debate in several years. >> you're already conceding the challenger might win this debate? >> i think there's a good chance governor romney will win this debate. look, he won virtually every debate during the republican primaries. he actually dispatched no newt gingrich, demolishe demolished e florida debate. the president is very good at delivering a message to the american people, but generally more like you saw at the democraticn, in kind of a longer format. it's going to be a challenge to get down to those little -- >> i find it interes
mitt romney devoted three full days in vermont to debate preparations. the president is lucky to be able to devote three consecutive hours to debate preparation. >> it is something that you have to do to lower the expectations, because expectations are running quite high on both sides about the debate itself, what we can expect to see. >> well, i think everybody's expectations are running high. generally challengers win the first debate, especially against incumbents, because...
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romney's team has concluded that the debates are about creating moments and has equipped him with a series of zingers he's memorized and has been practicing on aides since august. bob shrum, you have been on that particular role, preparing candidates for debate. what do you make of romney, a rather stiff customer to begin with, coming off as sort of a henny youngman or whatever, some sort of a don rickles with some zingers. i don't think of him as a zinger kind of guy where obama is expected to be left helpless. what do you make of that strategy? >> first of all, if you had it, you wouldn't announce it. it's kind of stupid. >> why are they leaking it? >> i don't know. because they're trying to hold onto their people, they're undisciplined, i have no idea. number two, zingers don't exist in a vacuum. it's not just coming up with some funny lines. they have to be part of the fabric of the argument and part of the fabric of who the person is. when ronald reagan said, there you go again, it was completely natural to him. as you know, chris, carter was right, he had opposed medicare at the star
romney's team has concluded that the debates are about creating moments and has equipped him with a series of zingers he's memorized and has been practicing on aides since august. bob shrum, you have been on that particular role, preparing candidates for debate. what do you make of romney, a rather stiff customer to begin with, coming off as sort of a henny youngman or whatever, some sort of a don rickles with some zingers. i don't think of him as a zinger kind of guy where obama is expected to...
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barack obama and mitt romney are getting set to square off for a televised debate. -- one stage, two men, tens of millions of viewers. for the first time, we might finally hear details on just how they plan to do it. our north american added there is in denver for us tonight. >> when the candidate stake to the stage tonight, they will want to convince the people that they speak their language. sometimes it is more of a stretch. >> [speaking spanish] >> obviously, they will not be speaking spanish tonight. the largest growing ethnic group could be critical in this election. there is going to be even more importance in the future. quarter of all americans under 18 are latino. canvassing in colorado, a swing state where the latino vote is hugely important. now, some are disappointed that he has not done more to help the illegal immigrants that come across the border. a few find this election a hard choice. >> we know that there is only one candidate that supports any kind of immigration reform that is of any real value and of course that is obama. romney would turn back any progress we
barack obama and mitt romney are getting set to square off for a televised debate. -- one stage, two men, tens of millions of viewers. for the first time, we might finally hear details on just how they plan to do it. our north american added there is in denver for us tonight. >> when the candidate stake to the stage tonight, they will want to convince the people that they speak their language. sometimes it is more of a stretch. >> [speaking spanish] >> obviously, they will not...
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in my experience, debating romney four years ago. it appeared to me there were times on the debate stage, i notice there was almost telegraphing some of his forbes and feelings, his facial expressions. that is an important thing that people watch for to see if you are pushing his buttons and getting through to him. i don't know if i noticed it this year's primaries. how important is it that mitt romney gets under the skin of barack obama barack obama get under the skin of mitt romney and it will show to the audience? >> audiences reported they take as much as 65% of the meaning from how something is said over what is said. so body language and how he appears on the stage is very important. normally when a candidate gets defensive that is when they started looking bad. that happens with barack obama. it happened when he told hillary she was like have likable enough. it happened with mitt romney when he did the $10,000 bet with governor perry. it's very important that governor romney keeps making the case about the economy and keep pus
in my experience, debating romney four years ago. it appeared to me there were times on the debate stage, i notice there was almost telegraphing some of his forbes and feelings, his facial expressions. that is an important thing that people watch for to see if you are pushing his buttons and getting through to him. i don't know if i noticed it this year's primaries. how important is it that mitt romney gets under the skin of barack obama barack obama get under the skin of mitt romney and it...
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romney to change the dynamics of the debate. he's going to help that he can think on his feet and come up with real spontaneous responses, the fact that he's too scripted has actually worked against him. the president has to turn in a work man like performance kind of like he did at the convention, nothing that's spectacular, but nothing that loses him any ground. but a lot of pressure on romney. >> same question to you, wayne, on which one has the more pressure on him factor. >> it's really both, certainly given the way the race has been going, mitt romney has been a lot to prove, this could be a big make or break moment for him. but the way expectations have been set, which is to say that romney, after performing poorly sometimes on the stump and not as well as president obama which of course is lauded for his great oratory, i think people expect a lot from president obama, so if he does turn in a work man like performance, or if he falls into any of his traps, if he looks peevish, anything along those lines, he could have a b
romney to change the dynamics of the debate. he's going to help that he can think on his feet and come up with real spontaneous responses, the fact that he's too scripted has actually worked against him. the president has to turn in a work man like performance kind of like he did at the convention, nothing that's spectacular, but nothing that loses him any ground. but a lot of pressure on romney. >> same question to you, wayne, on which one has the more pressure on him factor. >>...
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for obama, john kerry's plays romney. rob portman plays obama. >> you never see videotape of this, not even pictures. >> no. there's a reason why. you don't want to show those vulnerable moments. >> we don't want to give away any component to our prep. >> in the 2000 campaign, one of mckinnon's secretaries gave prep video to the gore campaign. >> gore campaign went straight to the fbi. >> what happened to her? >> she went to prison for a year. >> what's so secret? i pretended to be a candidate. limited government -- >> just limited government. what kind of limits are you talking about? can you be specific. >> yes, i can list cuts. >> would you cut defense? >> so you're soft on defense? >> i knew how i should answer the questions, but under pressure it's hard. i'm saying take it back to the clinton days. "instinct is to answer the questions that are asked, but consultants day don't. >> you're still answering my questions, but most of the time you want to be delivering your message. >> they say sarah palin was good at that.
for obama, john kerry's plays romney. rob portman plays obama. >> you never see videotape of this, not even pictures. >> no. there's a reason why. you don't want to show those vulnerable moments. >> we don't want to give away any component to our prep. >> in the 2000 campaign, one of mckinnon's secretaries gave prep video to the gore campaign. >> gore campaign went straight to the fbi. >> what happened to her? >> she went to prison for a year. >>...
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romney, he doesn't have to hit a home run, but romney has to be at the end of the debate wednesday night, a clear alternative who is considered as a potelepresident by a majority-- potential president by the maiority of american people in order for his campaign to have a chance to win. >> schieffer: is that another way to say if he doesn't win these debates if he doesn't win these debates? >> no challenger can become president if they don't stabbed up against the incumbent president. this was true with carter and ford, and ford made a mistake and cost him deerly. it was true with carter against reagan, reagan stood up to it. and it was true for george h.w. bush. he had a moment to knock out bill clinton and he didn't. >> schieffer: this debate will be about domestic affairs. i want to ask you something about the foreign policy front. the administration has basic plea changed its account of what happened in libya, where our u.s. ambassador was killed. they said, susan rice said on this broadcast last sunday, after the president of libya said this was the work of terrorists, she said, no,
romney, he doesn't have to hit a home run, but romney has to be at the end of the debate wednesday night, a clear alternative who is considered as a potelepresident by a majority-- potential president by the maiority of american people in order for his campaign to have a chance to win. >> schieffer: is that another way to say if he doesn't win these debates if he doesn't win these debates? >> no challenger can become president if they don't stabbed up against the incumbent...
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the romney camp plays down expectations for next week's debate. some predictions. welcome to "the willis report."
the romney camp plays down expectations for next week's debate. some predictions. welcome to "the willis report."
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he is dealing with the joe wilson school of debate, something we've seen from romney before. he tries to newt traize his own weaknesses by turning them against president obama. how much time it gives the obama campaign to prepare and to ji jut sue it. now obama can go into that debate ready to talk about the many lies and misspeaks of the romney campaign, whether that be the mischaracterization of obama's medication plan or obama who killed simpson/bowles. i think obama is going to be able to say, you know what, let's do not this, mitt. let's not point fingers at one another. let's rise above it and each tell the american people what we are capable of. >> let me ask you this, alicia, because we just had nbc wall street journal marist poll release new figures. president is up seven points in new hampshire, up by two points in nevada and north carolina. and in a poll released yesterday, up ten points in ohio, nine points in florida. up by 12 points in pennsylvania. is this why we are seeing these desperate measures now? clean across the board, every poller is saying he's up, up
he is dealing with the joe wilson school of debate, something we've seen from romney before. he tries to newt traize his own weaknesses by turning them against president obama. how much time it gives the obama campaign to prepare and to ji jut sue it. now obama can go into that debate ready to talk about the many lies and misspeaks of the romney campaign, whether that be the mischaracterization of obama's medication plan or obama who killed simpson/bowles. i think obama is going to be able to...
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we'll show you secrets behind the debates. >> for months mitt romney and president obama have attacked each other, talked past each other, but three times this fall they face each other. debates can make a big difference. >> you'll never have as many people watching your two candidates together in a presidential election as you have on debate night. >> the campaigns can't control the debate the way they control everything else. >> no matter what you do as a manager to get them ready, he's still got to step in the arena. it's just two of them. you don't know. >> it's three agencies of government when i get there that are gone. commerce, education, and the -- what's the third one there? let's see. >> one brain freeze can end your campaign. >> the -- umm. >> commerce? commerce. and let's see -- >> rick perry was a serious contender until this debate. >> oops. >> forgetting is bad, and looking bad is bad. in the very first tv debate, richard nixon refused to put on makeup. it hurt him. nixon later said -- >> more important than what you say is how you look on television. >> so campaigns ob
we'll show you secrets behind the debates. >> for months mitt romney and president obama have attacked each other, talked past each other, but three times this fall they face each other. debates can make a big difference. >> you'll never have as many people watching your two candidates together in a presidential election as you have on debate night. >> the campaigns can't control the debate the way they control everything else. >> no matter what you do as a manager to...
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it's not a debate. it's one guy talking and nobody answering. other republicans below the presidential candate level are willg toavisat this is from "the tampa bay times." "over and over, every time the subjecof pulling troops out of afghanistan, republican congressman bill young has voted to stay the course. th avereti resolutions to to aetable for withdrawal. but not anymore." "i think we should remove ourself from afghanistan as quickly as we can," says congressman young. "i just think we're killing ki that don't need to die." this is the longest serving cs sumi t member of congres funds the pentagon in the house. he describes himself as a stay the course politician, since the days of the vietnam war. but he now says he is done. he is over it. and you know what? he's not ane. most americans are done. we are over it. more than two-thirdsth country says the u.s. should not be involved in afghanistan anymore and that is not a partisan figure. when you're looking at 69%, that's too high to be a partisan figure if nothing else. there's a political
it's not a debate. it's one guy talking and nobody answering. other republicans below the presidential candate level are willg toavisat this is from "the tampa bay times." "over and over, every time the subjecof pulling troops out of afghanistan, republican congressman bill young has voted to stay the course. th avereti resolutions to to aetable for withdrawal. but not anymore." "i think we should remove ourself from afghanistan as quickly as we can," says...
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president obama and republican candidate mitt romney face off in denver tonight for the first debate of the presidential campaign. on tuesday, vice-president joe biden drew ridicule from republicans after saying the middle-class has been buried the last four years. although biden was referring to the effects of the financial crisis that began under the bush administration, paul ryan seized on the remarks as an admission of failure. this is deadly earnest. how they can justify, how can they justify raising taxes on the middle class? the middle-class has been buried last four years. how, in lord's name, can they justify raising taxes? >> vice-president biden today said that the middle-class over the last of we or years has been buried. we agree. that means we need to stop digging, which means we have to collect mitt romney as president of the united states. >> meanwhile, paul ryan has appeared in videos online. in a speech delivered last november, he said 30% of americans want to live off the government. today, 70% of americans get more benefit from the federal government and a payback
president obama and republican candidate mitt romney face off in denver tonight for the first debate of the presidential campaign. on tuesday, vice-president joe biden drew ridicule from republicans after saying the middle-class has been buried the last four years. although biden was referring to the effects of the financial crisis that began under the bush administration, paul ryan seized on the remarks as an admission of failure. this is deadly earnest. how they can justify, how can they...
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>> it was a huge moment in the debates for governor romney. >> why? >> because in that one sentence he was able to take an issue that others had been dogging him with and put it to rest. he was able to communicate clearly. if you are going to milwaukee the charge, make it on the stage, and that really put gingrich in his place. you know, that's happened through -- that happened throughout the primary debates. when pawlenty wouldn't -- if a candidate is not willing to say the same thing on stage face-to-face that they'll say in an interview, we view them as weak. that moment was a moment of strength for governor romney. >> dana bash is joining us life. dana, that was really fascinating. interesting that you spoke to the republican strategist brad o'donnell, one of romney's primary debate here. he spent a lot of time with him during the primaries. how much does the romney think that those 20 or so debates in the primaries is going to help him win tonight? >> well, of course, any debate that any candidate has they think will help, but, you know, this is
>> it was a huge moment in the debates for governor romney. >> why? >> because in that one sentence he was able to take an issue that others had been dogging him with and put it to rest. he was able to communicate clearly. if you are going to milwaukee the charge, make it on the stage, and that really put gingrich in his place. you know, that's happened through -- that happened throughout the primary debates. when pawlenty wouldn't -- if a candidate is not willing to say the...
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>>now that's politically direct. >>> since you have debated mitt romney, what advice would you give to barack obama? >> call bill clinton every morning. [ laughter ] >> jennifer: that's newt gingrich offering president obama some unsolicited advice. meanwhile the obama and romney campaigns are managing expectations. even the most ardent democrat would admit that president obama isn't the best debater. but according to beth myers . . . >> jennifer: and then president obama's top political advisor is just as glowing about mitt romney . . . they are so funny, my opponent he is abe lincoln and daniel webster all rolled into one. isn't that kind of weird hearing the campaign say such nice things about their opponents? believe me it's not going to last and it's all part of managing expectations before the debate. for more i'm joined by one of the country's foremost experts on the subject. samuel popkin who is a professor of political science at the university of san diego. he has worked on campaigns going back to the 1970s, and he is also the author of "the candidate." welcome back inside "t
>>now that's politically direct. >>> since you have debated mitt romney, what advice would you give to barack obama? >> call bill clinton every morning. [ laughter ] >> jennifer: that's newt gingrich offering president obama some unsolicited advice. meanwhile the obama and romney campaigns are managing expectations. even the most ardent democrat would admit that president obama isn't the best debater. but according to beth myers . . . >> jennifer: and then...
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romney is the greatest debater. chris christie, the governor of the new jersey says this yesterday. i will play the clip. >> we have a candidate that's going do extraordinarily well wednesday might and willy what out his vision for america and contrast what his view is and what the president's record is. the president's view for the future. and this whole race is going to be turned upside down on thursday morning. >> wow. what a bold prediction that is by the republican governor of new jersey. what do you think? >> god bless him. you know, everybody has to spin -- as -- spin doctors, we lie for a living. we really ramp up the lies the week of the debate. you pretend -- barack obama is not very smart, not a very good debater. baloney. i like fact the governor, he is stating the obvious which is true. that it is a narrow race but there is a solid but narrow lead for the president. it means this is at least one, maybe one of the last, very big moments that mitt romney can change that. i don't know that the prediction i
romney is the greatest debater. chris christie, the governor of the new jersey says this yesterday. i will play the clip. >> we have a candidate that's going do extraordinarily well wednesday might and willy what out his vision for america and contrast what his view is and what the president's record is. the president's view for the future. and this whole race is going to be turned upside down on thursday morning. >> wow. what a bold prediction that is by the republican governor of...
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romney's crafted quick comebacks with portman, his mock debate sparring partner. he practiced to keep his cool in what he predicts will be deception by the president. >> i'm not going to fool people to thinking things he doesn't. he wants to fool people thinking things i don't. that ends in the debate. >> so tonight romney believes he has the most to gain as the challenger, the moment he steps on that stage and begins to share the spotlight with the president who the romney campaign believes has the most to lose because he is the incumbent. romney spent much of the day today behind closed doors, a it will with the staff but mostly with family not to leave it in the locker room and break it out big time when the game clock starts. bret? >> bret: carl cameron in spin room. we'll be there in a bit. thank you. obama campaign is calling 2007 video of senator obama then delivering a racially charged speech in virginia is distraction and accusing allies of romney of spreading the tape to the media. the romney come pain denies having -- campaign denies having any part in
romney's crafted quick comebacks with portman, his mock debate sparring partner. he practiced to keep his cool in what he predicts will be deception by the president. >> i'm not going to fool people to thinking things he doesn't. he wants to fool people thinking things i don't. that ends in the debate. >> so tonight romney believes he has the most to gain as the challenger, the moment he steps on that stage and begins to share the spotlight with the president who the romney campaign...
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mitt romney has never debated a single person in a very long time. so i think we're all looking for fireworks and attacks and back and forth. i think at least the first half of the debate and maybe the entire first debate. remember, this is first of three. the entire first debate could be a little bit of a feeling process where no one takes any big risks getting to know one another in their debate style. i certainly could be proven wrong, but my guess is it's less fireworks than we currently are expecting. >> it's in the capable and experienced hands of jim lahr, and we'll see what happens tonight as well as tonight. the 6:30 release, and tomorrow morning at 6:00 a.m., it is new battleground polls for ohio, virginia, florida. that's going to be very important news as well. the nbc "wall street journal" mariss polls. we saw a narrow iing of the polls initially. that is still very much in play. >> i can't wait. a political junkie's dream with all that polling coming up. i can't help but smile. >> we love to see you smiles. that does it for us for this
mitt romney has never debated a single person in a very long time. so i think we're all looking for fireworks and attacks and back and forth. i think at least the first half of the debate and maybe the entire first debate. remember, this is first of three. the entire first debate could be a little bit of a feeling process where no one takes any big risks getting to know one another in their debate style. i certainly could be proven wrong, but my guess is it's less fireworks than we currently...